Console or Computer?

[Xaozaddiction]

I CALL ON THEE AGAIN!!!
Which do you prefer?
Owning people with a controller or keyboard?
Click of a mouse or click of a trigger?
Few buttons or multiple keys?
What im really asking is...
Console games or Computer games?

[Poohbomber]

This really didn't need to be created. For one thing, encouraging wars, either be console, Mac vs. PC, console vs. computer (as this is) is probably one of the worst things to do on the internet. I know I started it but creating an entire thread for this is probably one of the dumbest things to do, especially on the internet.

[Xaozaddiction]

Well i would rather take it here than on forum ment to figure out which game i want with out the bias views of "COMPUTER GAME, because all computer games are better no matter what" which is horribly wrong because i have played horrible computer games before.

[Poohbomber]

I'm not saying that all of them are better, I'm saying that the vast majority are. Most Multi-Shooters are best on the computer because you can aim faster with a mouse than with a joystick, the mouse having an infinite speed that you can move it with, while the joystick can only go so fast. Real Time Strategy games are the best for computers because you can multitask with easier. Adventure games are good on the console, but memory limits hinder how big a game world can actually be. Puzzle games are great for both as there is no real difference. Strategy games are better suited for the computer but can be on the console, if they are performed well. First person shooters are fine for the console and the computer, but I prefer the computer for the same reason as Multi-Shooters. Keyboards can handle much more actions than on a controller, which has a very limited amount of buttons. Mice can move faster than a joystick as well as being easier to fine-tune the aim of a camera. RPGs are perfect for the console. It is also easier to patch games on the computer than on a console.

[Riida]

Tbh, I'd rather a Console unless I'm playing games RTS-like games, such as Wc/Sc. With FPS and shooters, (games I mainly play), I'd rather a console, as my computer would lag. It's also quite hard for a console to lag, unless you're playing online. I'm not saying it's impossible, but say if I was playing a CoD game on my comp, if I were to lag I would be at a disadvantage, especially if my internet speed would be slower. With games such as CoD, latency/ping and general speed of your internet can play a big part in whether or not you do well/have fun or not, no matter how skilled you are. And with the countless specs of computers worldwide, your base advantage is heightened greatly by your processor, memory, etc., including internet speed. With consoles, however, it is much harder to hack, everyone generally has the same speed memory/processing speeds, and lag is usually a bit hard, unless the host of an online game is lagging/you are far away from the host. So, to me it mostly depends on the type of game, whether or not I'll play online, and what systems it's available for.
But mainly, I'd like to use a console instead of a comp for playing actual games (not flash games and such.)

[Poohbomber]

If you have good anti-virus and anti-spyware software, you shouldn't be hacked. Besides, at least with a computer you don't have to worry about it bricking if you tweak with it.

[Xaozaddiction]

Strategy ganes are half and half. Rts games are better for Computer i agree. It is really hard to control troops with a joystick and few quick actions unlike on a computer with an accurate mouse and multiple key bindings for squads and buildings.(with an acceptation of C&C because i prefer the console version of that over the pc one. only good console rts) but Tbs is equal if not better for console. I find it annoying playing a bored game on a computer because its too complex. there are to many things that do stuff and it annoys me (like with Civ: rev)
First person shooters:honestly it maters the game. Counter strike would fail on a console, and halo was horrible on pc. You cant really judge a fps on console vs computer because its all preferences. Yes you can get a bit more accurate with a mouse, but it also is harder to change weapons or jump from key spacing. on console fps you have everything laid out simply and close together and there is usually a universal control scheme that can be changed. and if you feel as though your going to slow (turning wise) then you can always increase look sensitivity (for both console and computer) so again its pretty equal for both.
Adventure: Computer. console game makers do not know how to make a good adventure game (with the acceptation of uncharted, only the first one though) Adventure games started on the Computer, and honestly should stay there for now.
RPG: Console. the rpg was made on the console and should stay there (sorta like adventure and computer) Almost every computer rpg is also on a console, and the console version is better. There are now very little computer only rpgs that aren't mmo's. And mmo's are mostly just grind fests. the only thing computer has over console for rpgs is modding. It is hard to mod on a console and usually cost one to get the tools. So unless you like modding then console is 100% better.
Graphics: This matters the system/comuter. for consoles it goes wii<360<Ps3. The ps3 literally is a computer with a blu ray player. You can get linux on it making just as good as any computer and even able to play computer games on it. Ps3 on an HD tv is beautiful. honestly i prefer the ps3 graphics over a lot of computer games. 360 is just good graphics, but for games that have high graphics they have to split the disks (lol ffxiii) but cant compare to ps3 graphics. Wii and 360 have the same graphics card, but wii usually doesn't go for graphics, because nintendo understands Gameplay>graphics :D but LOZ:TP has as good of graphics as most 360 games. computers it matters the computer because the graphic cards vary. Macs still the sexiest :3 but they cant play most games.

[Poohbomber]

You must have your computer controls really messed up. On almost all computer games you hardly use the keys yhn to the right for anything other than M for map, Y and T for actual talking (been like this for most multi-shooters that I have played). While everything that is qwer and below you use for actually movement. Shift for run (or in weird games, walk) ctrl for either prone or crouch, the number keys for weapons (also with the middle mouse button), tab for minimap. And if you really hate the setup it gives you, you can customize it! It doesn't have to be set to default key mapping. Not to mention you can talk without using the VOIP, which is actually really nice because then you don't have to fork over the money for a headset (which are actually quite expensive). And if you value graphics over game-play, you are a weird, weird person. Because while they are good, they don't make or break a game. Also, computers are fully customizable. And why would you want an OS on a console? You are pretty much making it into a computer then and there! Also you can play nearly every single game that has ever come out for computers on the most recent one, while you are stuck with games that out only for that console or system, if it has proper backwards compatibility. Not to mention that you get an infinite amount of games that you can choose from. Not to mention that on a computer you can get a rom player, which pretty much allows you to play any console or handheld game that has ever come out.

[Xaozaddiction]

Yes i know the its usually WASD for movement and stuff, but i find that to complicated and they restrict movement, unlike a joystick. I prefer first person shooters on consoles. They run smoother, simpler controls, and look just as good as they would on a pc. OKAY YES THERE IS TEXT CHAT. but it makes you stop in the middle of a battle to type something out and sometime you accidentally start a message in a fight, which is why many people get mics. and now a days for FPS its graphics > Gameplay because fps are s generic now. Even the most resent system (COD4's upgrade system[that was based off of diablo's "OMG NEW WEAPON MUST LVL TO USE"]) is being used in most recent fps (new transformers, mag, even halo is taking the class system) and actually there is a limit to how far back you can go for games. windows 2000 and 199(something) is usually as far back as you can go. really old games sometimes don't work on windows 7/ vista. XP plays them all though :D (to bad they stopped making the last good windows OS).
Why would you put an OS on a console? it allows you to mod games, download games, extra content, and it can double as a computer. Why wouldn't you? so what if your just making another computer for yourself? even the US military made a supercomputer with Ps3's. and rom players are for older games, which are obsolete.

[Poohbomber]

Actually you would be surprised at how many rom players out there are actually for newer consoles. Heck, even hand-held rom player exist. So don't try dismissing them with 'oh they only play old games' shtick. And old games at least don't copy off of each other. In fact some of the better games that I have played were older ones. Such as Super Metroid, a few of the sports games that are for the Sega Genesis my brother and I have had great fun with.

[Xaozaddiction]

So you can get newer rom players? those aren't very legal either :P (unless your paying market price for them which you wouldn't cause its cheaper to get the actual system/game) and ultimately the games are better on their original console then computers.

[Poohbomber]

But that's just your opinion. Also I just searched up an article about this. This is the final thoughts on the article:
The latest round of consoles has a lot to offer online gamers, and if you're into sports and racing titles, consoles are a good way to go. If you like massively multiplayer games and online shooters, there are a great deal more to choose from on the PC. Online play options for consoles are getting better all the time, but proprietary networks and fees for services like Xbox Live make them a bit less attractive. For the most part, PCs are still the dominant platform for online gaming, and that appears likely to continue for a while yet.
Let's just leave it at that and go home.
Here's a link to the article if you want, but I will not be posting in this anymore. http://internetgames.about.com/od/hardware/a/pcvsconsole.htm

[thebunni15]

I would use the Internet Channel on the Wii.


EDIT:...which means console.

[Riida]

Hacking as in hacking the game, sorry. xD but yes, I agree with Xaoz.

[Sbacity_Boy]

I voted for console. Just thought I would let you know.

[screwbaII]

Computer games have something called VARIETY. That is why I think they are better in every single way.

I was going to post a long winded reason why I think this, but then I decided that the word VARIETY pretty much summed up my whole argument.

And you know what else is sad? The fact I find Viva Pinata on the 360 more fun and challenging than 90% of the other games for consoles these days. Does this tell you something about how dumbed down the console gaming industry is today? So thankyou you mainstream idiots, for making games popular and reducing the I.Q level needed to play today's games to something on the level of retard. (Not directed to anyone in particular)

[Lovelight]

Voted for Console.

I didn't read Xoaz vs Pooh's entire argument, but from what I read so far, Pooh didn't mention anything about lagging issues. Lag issues. Bad. It's a minus for the PC.
Either he has a really good computer, or he's just really lucky to not encounter this crap.

Countless times have my computer turn off by itself because WC was making it overheat.

Also, it's a lot easier to torrent games, which steals money from the game company.
Yeah, I'm a hypocrite (I downloaded Diner Dash and Virtual Villagers illegally GASP). But it's still wrong no matter how you look at it.

I can't play Warcraft 3, Starcraft, Counter Strike, Command and Conquor, even Virtual Villagers without running into lagging or crashing issues.
If you're going to say "just get a better computer..."... no thanks.
Consoles are cheaper than good gaming computers/laptops.
$100 PS2, $400 PS3, dunno how much the xBox costs vs $2000 super fast never lagging computer that's ideal for just games. Hmmm.. I wonder.

The more games installed on PC, the slower it gets. @_@
I don't have issues with that in consoles.

As for Screw's argument, while I do agree that there's not that much variety anymore because there's pretty much a trend now, I don't agree about games dumbing down children.
Ex. Maple Story. You know what that game does to little kids?
World of Warcraft. ...Wow. Where to even start?
There are actual good challenging games on the console that makes you think.
If you want challenging for the console, the Final Fantasy series is the way to go. Not only is there ACTUAL strategy and an ACTUAL plotline, but it won't lag and stab your PS2 to death from the graphics and lagging.
Also the Phoenix Wright series for the DS. There's a lot of witty stuff on there.
Also. The Silent Hill series. Lots of puzzles that can make you want to throw the controller at the screen.

Anyway, I guess this argument's pretty biased because I played more console games (mainly PS2 and Nintendo DS) than PC games. Reason being, lagging issues. Overheating issues. I'm not going to delete half my crap on my PC just to hope that the game would run faster.

LASTLY. I really don't want to say that consoles are better than PC.
What matters is the game. xD In my opinion, anyway.
I'm not going to play Maplestory, hate it, and then say that all PC games are stupid.
Because Warcraft 3 completely counters that.
I'm not going to play Final Fantasy or Devil May Cry and then assume that all console games are good because that's just BS and prejudice(for games?).

So.. yeah. Depends on the game itself.
The console/electronic crap shouldn't have to matter. Both console and PC have their pros and cons, so really.. it's just up to the player and the game at the end.

[SiamJai]

I like consoles. Years ago, as a college student, I needed pure game-oriented machines with no multi-task distractions, and these were perfect (not sure about today's consoles though...). Also, all games I bought were guaranteed to work on my machine the same way the developer intended them to work, a big plus when powerful PCs were still rare and expensive.

Yet, I favor computer gaming now. Consoles no longer suit my mobile lifestyle; it's much more practical to consolidate all my gaming needs into one powerful mobile machine that I can also use for work. So for me, laptops are the way to go. I can run great games no matter whether I'm at home or on the road.

[screwbaII]

Yea mobility is a pretty big factor for me too, since I have like 3 houses now (my parents, mine, and Nick's), I practically take my laptop with me everywhere - including to uni for note taking as well as gaming in my breaks and stuff.

[Cthulhu]

Persocom

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